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Andrew Greenberg's avatar

I very much appreciate your thoughtful self examination -- and especially how The Enneagram is so experiential. How challenging it is to engage with it until you've 'landed' on your type. Great work. Thank you!

Johny M.'s avatar

Your point about the Enneagram's roots in Sufi and contemplative traditions points to something most Western frameworks completely lack: the idea that character has a deeper dimension that precedes behavior and motivation.

BaZi, the Chinese Four Pillars system, comes from a similar place. Not a test at all, works from birth data, and carries the same sense you're describing; that you're not discovering a label, you're recognizing something that was already there.

Curious whether you've ever gone down that rabbit hole?

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